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Neutrinos seen to fly faster than light
Experiment hints at possible violation of Einstein’s speed limit
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Experiment hints at possible violation of Einstein’s speed limit

By Devin Powell

Web edition: September 23, 2011
Print edition: October 22, 2011; Vol.180 #9 (p. 18)

An experiment that creates particles called neutrinos has called into question Einstein’s theory of special relativity. Even though few believe that these results will ultimately hold up, their implications have stirred up quite a fuss.

After painstakingly checking and rechecking their data, physicists working on Italy’s OPERA experiment say they have clocked neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light. According their calculations, there’s only a one in a billion chance that what they’re seeing is a statistical fluke.

But that doesn’t make it real.

The official announcement of the result, on September 23 at the European physics laboratory CERN near Geneva, was met with cheering — but also with a barrage of questions from those scrutinizing the experiment for unknown sources of error that may be misleading the physicists. 

“This will be a tremendous revolutionary finding if it is true,” says Chang Kee Jung, a particle physicist at Stony Brook University in New York and a spokesperson for the T2K neutrino experiment in Japan. Ask him to bet against the new results, though, and he says he’d be willing to bet his house.

After all, this isn’t the first report of improbably speedy neutrinos. In 2007 the MINOS experiment turned up hints of neutrinos traveling impossibly fast between the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Batavia, Ill., and a mine in Minnesota. But the uncertainties in those measurements were too large to justify calling it a discovery.

OPERA’s neutrinos were born from protons smashed into a chunk of graphite at CERN. They then traveled underground to Italy’s National Gran Sasso Laboratory beneath the Apennines Mountains. A detector spotted the arrival of a small fraction of the particles — about 16,000 in total between 2009 and 2011.

Thanks to GPS devices, the distance of this trip, about 730 kilometers, is known to within 20 centimeters — a feat of accuracy that required closing a lane of traffic for a week in a tunnel above the detector in Italy.

“We could have done an even better job if we stopped all the traffic,” says Dario Autiero, an OPERA team member and a physicist at the Institute of Nuclear Physics of Lyon in France.

Light traveling in a vacuum would have made this trip in 2.43 milliseconds. The neutrinos shaved about 60 nanoseconds off that time, according to atomic clocks at either end synchronized by a satellite. Divide distance by time, and the particles must have been traveling 0.0025 percent faster than the speed of light in a vacuum.

Still, Autiero and his colleagues may have missed some unknown systematic uncertainties built into their equipment, says Kevin McFarland, a particle physicist at the University of Rochester in New York and a spokesperson for Fermilab’s MINERvA neutrino experiment.

“It’s just odd,” says McFarland. “Everybody’s bias in responding to this is going to be that this is some sort of systematic uncertainty that they didn’t figure out.”

Other neutrino experiments plan to double-check the results. At Japan’s T2K experiment, where particles travel only 295 kilometers, the speed discrepancy would be smaller and more difficult to observe. Fermilab might have a better shot. Neutrinos in the MINOS experiment cover 735 kilometers, about the same distance as CERN’s experiment.

MINOS will soon upgrade its equipment with snazzy new atomic clocks, says Rob Plunkett, a Fermilab physicist working on a MINOS experiment. The upgraded experiment, which will start in 2013 and last for a year or so, should have uncertainties comparable to OPERA’s.

Confirmation of the results would be exciting news for theoretical physicists such as Matthew Mewes of Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania, who have long played around with ways to modify relativity.

“This may mean that there’s much more going on in particle physics than we thought possible,” says Mewes. “We could be seeing signs of exotic theories like string theories.”

In 2004 Mewes and Alan Kostelecky of Indiana University in Bloomington published a paper in Physical Review D describing one such theory. They discard one of the basic assumptions of relativity, a symmetry that makes the laws of physics look the same when viewed from different reference frames. By filling spacetime with a field that has a preferred direction, the physicists create a universe that still has an ultimate speed limit — just not one that’s necessarily set by light.

Other proposals could accommodate faster-than-light travel with violating this principle of relativity, says Lee Smolin, a theoretical physicist at the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics in Waterloo, Canada. But they would also need to explain why previous experiments with particles of light have already ruled out effects that could explain the new neutrino results.

“This is a serious experiment, and these are serious people,” says Smolin. “But at this point nobody sober would be willing to say that this is right.”

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  • If we take the OPERA faster-than-light neutrinos result at face value, then we would predict that neutrinos from supernova 1987A would have arrived roughly 4 years ahead of the photons.

    In actuality the SN 1987A neutrinos and photons arrived within mere 3 hours of one another, and the difference had a conventional astrophysical explanation.

    My money is on Albert's special relativity, which has a perfect track record over 100 years old.

    RLO
    www3.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw
    knecht knecht
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • The article states: "Light traveling in a vacuum would have made this trip in just over a millionth of a second." But total travel time is actually 730km/(299792km/sec) = 2.44 milliseconds (not microseconds). And the 60 nanoseconds difference reported is only 18 meters out of 730km at the speed of light. Is this paradigm shifting?
    Gwizzz Gwizzz
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • Faster than light particles?

    In a pig's eye!

    More proof that particle physicists have wandered off into pseudo-science. We hardly needed more proof after the hammering they took in the initial LHC results.

    Robert L. Oldershaw
    www3.amherst.edu…~rloldershaw
    knecht knecht
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • There is a fundamental problem with Theoretical Physics. It is the fact that Theoretical Physicists beginning with Einstein have ignored the role of biology of perception on the outcome of experiments and observations of phenomena, especially those of relativity. This is something that only a biologically oriented person with an extraordinarily keen interest in the biology of perception and theoretical physics will be able to discern. Unfortunately, there is no one other than yours truly that I know of who fits this description.

    For example, there is a biological reason for the apparent constancy of the velocity of light that physicists are unaware of today. If a physicist bothers to make himself/herself familiar with this,it will become obvious to him/her that there is no reason why something cannot travel faster than light. There will be only problem with something travelling faster than light. We will not be able to study it using light or any other system of signals that travels at or below the velocity of light. We will need some tangible method of study, a method that relies on touch, contact or gravity.

    There are discrepancies between accepted physical concepts and biological facts-of-life too numerous to mention here. When one takes these facts into account, many if not all the paradoxes, uncertainties and discrepancies in theoretical physics and between it and Newtonian physics and everyday life will simply disappear.

    What theoretical physicists must do next is to unify Newtonian Physics with Relativity using the biology of perception as the unifying factor/force.

    Those who want to follow this line of thought will find all the information they need by looking up ACTINEMAS, the bio-physical algorithm for doing things that seem impossible to do any other way. To me, it is irrelevant if a neutrino travelled faster than light. What is relevant is that this observation provides an opportunity to study the role of the biology of perception in this experiment.

    If there was an error in the experiment, ACTINEMAS will find it and reveal how we could fix it in a matter of minutes.
    Ajitkumar Trivikram Ajitkumar Trivikram
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • OFF THE SCALE
    -- James Ph. Kotsybar

    The young lady known simply as Bright,
    who could travel at speeds fast as light,
    said, “While I’m never late,
    I’m concerned that my weight
    goes to infinite mass, though I’m slight.”
    Poeteye Poeteye
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • This result may help explain to me how gravity is able to propagate through empty space [perhaps similar to the way 'holes' in travel through a computer's multitude of P type semiconductor material). The results suggest that light and gravity is propogating through a medium that is slowing them down, and the neutrino is not interacting with that medium (or at least not much). Such a medium may also help allow a logical explaination for the existence of 'dark matter' and 'dark energy'. I'm have to admit that I have not been fan of those theories, partly for this reason. Yet with a heretofore un-noted substance on the table it could make more sense.
    gdmellott gdmellott
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • 450 miles / (186000 miles/sec) != millionth of a second
    Jim Reed Jim Reed
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • Please correct the error in line 2 of this article - "special reality" should, of course, be "special relativity". I suspect that this reflects an over-reliance on the word processor's spell-checker to correct errors in typing.
    Stanley Greenspoon Stanley Greenspoon
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • I understand that the distance between the two points was measured using the time of travel of antineutrinos from a supernova and then using the specified velocity of light in vacuo. Is it not possible that antineutrinos being anti-matter do not respond to the mass of the earth. Rather, space could be less curved for the antineutrinos than for the neutrinos of the experiment. Perhaps the neutrinos can still travel hypothetically at the velocity of light, but the distance is shorter because of the curvature of space. Could it be therefore that special relativity is not violated. Instead, perhaps it is general relativity that should be modified to allow for the difference between matter and antimatter. After all, the latter is rather rare and presumably almost no physics would be affected by such an adjustment in general relativity. I would be interested in knowing the views of the physicists on this point.
    John Austin John Austin
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • Article says: "Light traveling in a vacuum would have made this trip in just over a millionth of a second".

    You have to be kidding me. I know light is fast but its not that fast!

    730 kilometers is about 453.7 miles. If we use the published speed of light as 186,282 miles per second, the the time required to cover the distance is about 2.4 milliseconds.. a far cry from one millionth of a second!
    David Marcus David Marcus
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • "at this point nobody sober would be willing to say that this is right.”

    I am absolutely sober! I haven't had a drink in days, ever since they threw me into this padded cell.

    But I don't believe neutrinos travel faster than light.
    Ralph Dratman Ralph Dratman
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • Sometimes I wonder if we shouldn't be more cognizant of the qualification by medium, i.e. "the speed of light in a vacuum". That maybe even the notion that light looks to have moved faster in the immediate aftermath of the big bang, might have an answer in using "the speed of light in ...".
    gerardr gerardr
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • What this makes me try to remember is an
    experiment that IIRC was published in Science
    News in perhaps about the mid 1980s, involving
    parallel plates. Plates that where charged.
    Something about how light could travel faster
    than light.
    -
    I could look up the speed of light (if I needed
    more than about three digits of it).
    And?
    What I got from that experiment is that the value
    I'd find is not correct: That the published value
    does not account for what a standard vacuum
    actually is: A quantum soup sort of thing where
    particles are constantly popping into and out of
    existence.
    And so the published value of c is a tiny bit lower
    than the real value.
    Of course everybody knows that light slows down
    differently depending upon which type of matter
    it is in that it can move through, and that neutrinos
    don't notice a planet.
    Shawn Turner Shawn Turner
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • 1st sentence, last word, should be relativity rather than reality.
    John McClelland John McClelland
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am

  • Nikola Tesla the "father of free energy" as also the discoverer of the neutrino reported in 1932 that neutrinos are small particles, each carrying so small a charge and they travel with great velocity, exceeding that of light.

    Experimental tests of Bell inequality have shown that microscopic causality must be violated, so there must be faster than light travel. According to Albert Einstein's theory of relativity, nothing with nonzero rest mass can go faster than light. But zero rest mass particles can go faster than the light. Neutrinos have a small nonzero rest mass. Faster than light interactions are a necessity and they provide the non local structure of the universe. In any physical theory, it is assumed that there is some kind of nonlocal structure violates causality. If neutrinos are traveling faster than light, then neutrinos must be on the otherside of the light barrier going backwards in time, where the future can interact with the past.

    There are lots of theories and research regarding this matter including Cherenkov radiation, Standard Model Extension, Heim theory, Novikov selfconsistency principle, Casimir effect, Hartman effect, Casimir vacuum & quantum tunnelling, Tachyons, etc.

    - Nalliah Thayabharan

    Thayabharan Thayabharan
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 9:24am
  • The 60 ns discrepancy amounts to about 18 m. If the distance between the experiment's endpoints is only known as a result of stopping traffic for a week, how certain can they be about the value? I don't think that particular measurement will be repeated any time soon. Yet the "statistical" chance of being wrong is only being reported as 1 in a billion. Even seismic changes in the distance could be relevant when we are talking about 18 m.
    Ralph Dratman Ralph Dratman
    Sep. 26, 2011 at 12:06pm
  • While i'm just as skeptical as anyone else here, i believe that Thayabharan layed out a proper reasoning, assuming of course that neutrinos occupy the nonlocal structure and that the zero rest mass can acctually be accounted for in this scenario.
    Nex Nex
    Sep. 27, 2011 at 10:24am
  • so, light may only be a very good proxy of how fast things are allowed to move "here" -- IF this is REAL, it seems that SOMEthing is getting in the way of, or dragging on light, and whatever it is affects neutrinos somewhat less as they move through .. I don't know what, space/time ? --It should be interesting to see what THAT actually is . . .
    richard wilson richard wilson
    Sep. 28, 2011 at 2:50pm
  • I am not surprised with that fact. Hope to get it confirmed. Why neutrinos have to have same speed when they belong to class of particles, which interact by different fundamental force. Well not really fully true because of unification at high energy of the weak interaction and the electromagnetism. But this may explain that the neutrino speed is at least very close to that of the photon. By SN1987A the neutrino signal arrived 3hr before optical. May be this is other indication for the effect. There are many indications that speed of gravitation is much higher than c, despite the GRT assertions. Look like the speed increases with the decrease of the force of the interaction. And on top of that non locality and entanglement fully contradict to SRT and it is a proven fact(Refer to Dr. A.Zeilinger). So why we wonder to this discovery. I hope to witness the birth of the new physics.
    Plamen Iontchev Plamen Iontchev
    Sep. 29, 2011 at 10:00am
  • Umm, please correct the subtitle of this article where you claim that relativity claims there is a cosmic speed limit. You're confusing the public. Photons are massless and travel at the speed of light and do not violate relativity because it doesn't accelerate to that speed. There's no speed limit, it's just that the energy required to accelerate mass to the speed of light is infinite.

    Discover just published an article on their website stating the same thing on 9/28.
    Chris Hunter Chris Hunter
    Sep. 29, 2011 at 10:00am
  • Oh wow, it's the whole article, even worse. You should just pull this article altogether.
    Chris Hunter Chris Hunter
    Sep. 29, 2011 at 10:00am
  • Whether or not this result is confirmed, it is frankly encouraging to see some diversity of opinions after forty years of lock-step, consensus science coming from government research labs.

    Two false dogmas have blocked progress:

    1. The 1967 Bilderberg dogma that Earth’s heat source is a ball of hydrogen, in equilibrium, generating constant heat by H-fusion.

    2. The 1971 auto-centric dogma that humans cause global climate change.
    Oliver K. Manuel Oliver K. Manuel
    Sep. 30, 2011 at 9:12am
  • Somebody uses any unrelated science story to try and discredit anthropogenic global warming - drink.
    Johnay Johnay
    Sep. 30, 2011 at 2:00pm
  • These neutrinos being measured in four-dimensional space-time may nonetheless take advantage of "shorcuts" or "warps" in higher dimensions ... n'est-ce pas?
    JAH'sDNA JAH'sDNA
    Oct. 3, 2011 at 10:15am
  • Until future experiments (not opinions or theory) dictate otherwise,let’s assume CERN/OPERA got it right; let’s assume those muon neutrinos really are moving faster than light. If so, I propose the following:

    1) The electron-neutrino, like the photon, has zero rest mass. The muon and tau neutrinos have small (non-zero) rest mass.

    2) Mass increases with velocity as specified by m = m_o/(1-(v/c)^2)^1/2 but deviates from the Einstein equation at high energy such that as v goes to c mass is a high, but finite, multiple of the rest mass. In other words FTL velocities are possible – given enough energy. (Sorry AL, but you had a very good run for 106 years).

    Given these assumptions we would expect the following:

    1) Electron-neutrinos from Super-Nova 1987A would arrive along with the photons from the explosion – just as was observed – because both the electron-neutrinos and the photons truly have zero rest mass and travel at c upon formation. Oh, and for those of you who insist on neutrino oscillation, the neutrinos (be they electron, muon or tau) produced by SN 1987A only had an energy of 10 MeV – not enough for FTL (see below).

    2) CERN’s 17 GeV FTL muon-neutrinos have enough energy (i.e. a high enough multiple of their rest mass) such that their velocity is greater than c (if only by a little).

    3) Given enough energy, not just muon-neutrinos, but electrons, protons and everything else with non-zero rest mass can be accelerated to v greater than c.

    Indeed, if we knew the rest mass of the muon-neutrino (which, sadly, we do not) we could derive a light-speed transition energy factor that we could apply to all matter. For example, if the muon-neutrino had a rest mass of say 1 KeV and assuming CERN’s 17 GeV transition to FTL, we would have a light-speed transition energy factor of 17 GeV/1 KeV = 1.7×10^7. It would then take 5.11×10^5 eV (1.7×10^7) = 8.7×10^12 eV = 8.7 TeV to accelerate an electron beyond c, and 1.6×10^16 eV = 16 PeV to accelerate a proton beyond c. These particle energies are beyond our current means, but this would explain why we have not observed FTL effects with these particles – we have not yet pumped enough energy into them.

    Steven Dinowitz Steven Dinowitz
    Oct. 5, 2011 at 9:48am
  • The researcher­s may have only measured the speed of light more accurately using their measurement of the neutrino beam, which has been assumed to travel at light speed.

    Countless previous experiments have shown that particles gain mass as they near the light barrier. As they get very close to that barrier, the masses of the particles rise exponentially. Even the power of a supernova can only accelerate particles close to, but not at light speed. If neutrinos have a tiny amount of mass as has been suggested, then traveling at or above light speed should cause the neutrino beam to become infinitely massive, which is not what was observed.
    Stacy Fisher Stacy Fisher
    Oct. 5, 2011 at 2:56pm
  • The .0025% faster-than-light discrepancy for the OPERA neutrinos is in a similar deviation range for another unrelated experiment, that challenges present day concepts. Betweeen 2003 and 2006, a group of researchers at the Austrian Research Center measured .0100% g acceleration pulses from a physically spun-up, niobium superconductor. Might the same mechanism be responsible for both anomalies?

    Being an amateur experimenter, I decided to see if I could find any acceleration pulses emanating from commercial YBCO superconductors. I have found signals, but I believe these are from acoustic, or mechanical, vibrations. Am presently refining these experiments to exclude these unwanted sources of signal. The experiment is described at: starflight1.freeyellow (add dot com at end, and appropriate characters at beginning).
    David Schroeder David Schroeder
    Oct. 7, 2011 at 12:27pm
  • It seems that many scientists are skeptical of the test result. The press release from CERN mentioned that the distance was calculated by GPS. Let me ask an elementary question: Since the neutrinos travel along straight lines, was the distance along the Earth spherical surface given by GPS adjusted to obtain the chord distance between the two points? In this specific case, the chord length is about 0.055 percent shorter than the arc.
    Alfredo Fernandez Alfredo Fernandez
    Oct. 11, 2011 at 10:36am
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