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'Climate-gate': Beyond the embarrassment
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By Janet Raloff

Web edition: December 12, 2009

SAMSØ ISLAND, DENMARK Late last month, someone leaked a cache of more than 1,000 stolen emails relating to climate science. The emails had been stored in an archive at the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit. The hacked correspondence has proven a monumental embarrassment to its authors — for a host of reasons.

“[B]ut the messages don't support claims that the science of global warming was faked,” the Associated Press concluded today.

The hacked correspondence offers evidence of unethical behavior and hubris on the part of certain climate scientists, according to the AP analysis. Some emails also expressed mean-spirited rhetoric about climate-change skeptics.

AP “studied all the e-mails for context, with five reporters reading and rereading them — about 1 million words in total,” the news report says. In addition, the news agency sought assessments of the e-mails from seven “experts in research ethics, climate science and science policy.

“The e-mails show that several mainstream scientists repeatedly suggested keeping their research materials away from opponents who sought it under American and British public records law,” according to the analysis. Indeed, it noted that these scientists' attitude “raises a science ethics question because free access to data is important so others can repeat experiments as part of the scientific method.”

The outside experts said the emails’ sometimes intemperate language and strategizing represented politics — which occurs in science as in many other fields of endeavor, from academia to business. None of the experts found a proverbial “smoking gun” in these emails that would diminish the strength of data underpinning the now-ongoing climate-change negotiations near here, in Copenhagen.

A Dec. 2 editorial in Nature came to much the same conclusion. Many people challenge data indicating that Earth’s atmosphere is warming, that human activities have played a substantial role in that warming, and that measures must be undertaken soon to slow emissions of greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide. Some of these quite vocal critics regularly post comments on the Science News website.

But the claim that the hacked emails offer evidence that mainstream climate scientists have systematically suppressed evidence contradicting global warming is simply “paranoid,” the Nature editorial charges.

In fact, the editorial argues that climate-change deniers’ misguided interpretation of the hacked correspondence “would be laughable were it not for the fact that obstructionist  politicians in the U.S. Senate will probably use it next year as an excuse to stiffen their opposition to the country’s much needed climate bill. Nothing in the e-mails undermines the scientific case that global warming is real — or that human activities are almost certainly the cause. That cause is supported by multiple, robust lines of evidence, including several that are completely independent of the climate reconstructions debated in the e-mails.”

In the end, the editorial concluded, the hacked emails offer testimony “that scientists are human” and can be goaded by unrelenting criticism and disrespect for their research into exhibiting unprofessional attitudes and language.

A Dec. 4 “open letter to Congress” by 25 prominent U.S. scientists, including many who work on climate issues, charged that “opponents of taking action on climate change have misrepresented both the content and the significance of stolen emails to obscure public understanding of climate science and the scientific process.”

In fact, the letter argues, “The body of evidence that human activity is the dominant cause of global warming is overwhelming. The content of the stolen emails has no impact whatsoever on our overall understanding that human activity is driving dangerous levels of global warming.”

For what it’s worth, shortly before the climate-emails theft (October 21), 18 scientific organizations called upon Congress to accept “that climate change is occurring, and rigorous scientific research demonstrates that the greenhouse gases emitted by human activities are the primary driver.” Signatories included the American Geophysical Union, American Meteorological Association and American Association for the Advancement of Science.

I find the whole "climate-gate" saga, as the stolen emails have come to be known, disturbing. Theft is disappointing — and illegal. The unprofessional language in some of the emails is also disappointing. I sincerely hope that both are investigated. Today’s AP report said the University of East Anglia will be investigating whether and to what extent information had been withheld from lawful requests. But probing these apparent ethical, if not moral, lapses can wait until the new year.

I’ve spent the day at a “Future Energy Seminar” here on a small Danish island: A social experiment showing that communities can survive quite comfortably off the grid. Samsø Island gets 100 percent of its electricity and heating from wind and other “alternative” energy sources. It showcases some of the technologies featured at the seminar.

But the bulk of discussions at the conference for 18 international reporters, convened this weekend by the Washington, D.C.-based International Center for Journalists, has pointed to how far we all still have to go to “de-carbonize” urban energy supplies if we hope to have any chance of keeping Earth’s low-grade fever from igniting into a catastrophic warming.

Particularly troubling were two talks by U.S. analysts with the International Energy Agency, in Paris. They offered ample evidence indicating that big changes have to occur quickly if we’re going to get in front of the problem and slow our trajectory from a path that’s currently heading for a 6-degree-Celsius warmer world, to one that might only get 2 degrees warmer.

The United Nations Climate Change meeting, which I arrive at tomorrow in Copenhagen, is currently deadlocked on more important issues than who said what impolitic thing about somebody else in a private email to a colleague. Glaciers are melting, reducing the stores of drinking water for downstream communities in many parts of the world. Sea level rise, due to thermal expansion, is threatening some island nations’ very survival. Acidifying oceans and overcut forests are reducing the ability of our planet to sop up excess CO2.

Who’s going to pay for measures to slow emissions of greenhouse gases? What tactics offer the most bang for our constrained bucks? Can the United States get off the sideline and take a leadership role in developing incentives to reduce our polluting ways?

Let’s get some perspective and own up to the fact that we need to restore some semblance of ecological balance to the way we live our lives.

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  • Hilsener fra Glasgow

    It's interesting to note that the climate scientists in the UK, are part of the same science community that singularly failed to develop wind TURBINES (hi tech name - new innovative), when the Danes so successfully created your vindmøller (low-tech, comes out of history).

    This was because the Brits, and US got a Bee in their bonnet and went off the path of "lets produce some really big hi-tech machines", whilst the Danes, simply started making and selling vindmøller for communities. It was very much the "hands on practitioner" versus the "men in whites coats" and "ivory towers".

    Yes, bigger more aerodynamic machines should have been better, but the problem for the US and UK, was that large numbers of smaller machines, got a lot of field testing and because reliability was the limiting factor not theoretical efficiency the Danes were simply streaks ahead in terms of reliability. Practical engineering - what really works in the field won over "theoretical" what should happen.

    And it is the same with climate "science". The simple "theory" tells them that CO2 and the warming must be linked. But I used to build precision temperature monitoring and control equipment, I know how difficult it is to measure any temperature - it's a nightmare and even getting a figure for a "room temperature" is very problematic, but the whole world? And. I know how people will behave in the remote bits of Africa where its too hot for the academics. People cut corners, they avoid the heat, delay the measurement a bit - what does it matter - urbanisation, reduction in atmospheric smoke, there's far more to this than simply CO2 caused it - the science is settled.

    And then they start telling me that "an opinion poll of scientist has determined that 9 out of 10 scientists agree with their employer" ... and you begin to wonder what mindset runs these organisations ... it clearly doesn't understand that science is based on evidence not opinion polls!

    Hej hej
    Mike Haseler Mike Haseler
    Dec. 12, 2009 at 7:36pm
  • The environmental movement has been hijacked by Malthusian Eugenicists and these Quotes from the mouths of the Elite are why I know that AGW is a False Conclusion and now through the Climategate emails are proven to be based on Junk Science...Science Magazine should be Ashamed for running this Whitewash of an article

    Read these ...put them in context for yourself then think again about what these Globalist Criminals are setting up In Copenhagen

    “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
    – Maurice Strong, founder of the UN Environment Programme

    “A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our
    economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation.”
    – Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies

    “The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization, we have in the US. We have to stop these Third World countries right where they are.”
    – Michael Oppenheimer, Environmental Defense Fund

    “Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.”
    – Professor Maurice King

    “We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land.”
    – David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

    “Complex technology of any sort is an assault on human dignity. It would be little short of disastrous for us to
    discover a source of clean, cheap, abundant energy, because of what we might do with it.”
    – Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute

    “The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.”
    – Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation

    “Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.”
    – Prof Paul Ehrlich, Stanford University

    “Our insatiable drive to rummage deep beneath the surface of the earth is a willful expansion
    of our dysfunctional civilization into Nature.”
    – Al Gore, Earth in the Balance

    “The big threat to the planet is people: there are too many, doing too well economically and burning too much oil.”
    – Sir James Lovelock, BBC Interview

    “My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.”
    -Dave Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

    “Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake,
    use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable.”
    – Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit

    “All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and
    behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”
    – Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution

    “Mankind is the most dangerous, destructive, selfish and unethical animal on the earth.”
    – Michael Fox, vice-president of The Humane Society

    “Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor.”
    – Sir James Lovelock, Healing Gaia

    “The Earth has cancer and the cancer is Man.”
    – Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point

    “A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells, the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.”
    – Prof. Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb

    “A reasonable estimate for an industrialized world society at the present North American material standard of living would be 1 billion. At the more frugal European standard of living, 2 to 3 billion would be possible.”
    – United Nations, Global Biodiversity Assessment

    “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
    – Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor

    “… the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion.”
    – Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind

    “One America burdens the earth much more than twenty Bangladeshes. This is a terrible thing to say in order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it’s just as bad not to say it.”
    – Jacques Cousteau, UNESCO Courier

    “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
    – Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, patron of the World Wildlife Fund

    “I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. It played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”
    – John Davis, editor of Earth First! Journal

    “The extinction of the human species may not only be inevitable but a good thing.”
    – Christopher Manes, Earth First!

    “Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”
    – David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.”
    – Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution

    “We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”
    – Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, lead author of many IPCC reports

    “Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.”
    – Sir John Houghton, first chairman of IPCC

    “It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.”
    – Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpeace

    “We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.”
    – Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation

    “No matter if the science of global warming is all phony, climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
    -Christine Stewart, fmr Canadian Minister of the Environment

    “The climate crisis is not a political issue, it is a moral and spiritual challenge to all of humanity. It is also our greatest opportunity to lift Global Consciousness to a higher level.”
    – Al Gore, accepting the Nobel Peace Prize

    “The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.”
    – emeritus professor Daniel Botkin

    “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis.”
    – David Rockefeller, Club of Rome executive manager

    “Humanity is sitting on a time bomb. If the vast majority of the world’s scientists are right, we have just ten years to avert a major catastrophe that could send out entire planet’s climate system into a tail-spin of epic destruction involving extreme weather, floods, droughts, epidemics and killer heat waves beyond anything we have ever experienced – a catastrophe of our own making.”
    – Al Gore, An Inconvenient Truth

    “By the end of this century, climate change will reduce the human population to a few breeding pairs surviving near the Arctic.”
    – Sir James Lovelock, Revenge of Gaia

    “Climate Change will result in a catastrophic, global seal level rise of seven meters. That’s bye-bye most of Bangladesh, Netherlands, Florida and would make London the new Atlantis.”
    – Greenpeace International

    “Climate change is real. Not only is it real, it’s here, and its effects are giving rise to a frighteningly new global phenomenon – the man-made natural disaster.”
    – Barack Obama, US Presidential Candidate

    “We are close to a time when all of humankind will envision a global agenda that encompasses a kind of Global Marshall Plan to address the causes of poverty and suffering and environmental destruction all over the earth.”
    – Al Gore, Earth in the Balance

    “In Nature organic growth proceeds according to a Master Plan, a Blueprint. Such a ‘master plan’ is missing from the process of growth and development of the world system. Now is the time to draw up a master plan for sustainable growth and world development based on global allocation of all resources and a new global economic system. Ten or twenty years from today it will probably be too late.”
    – Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point

    “The concept of national sovereignty has been immutable, indeed a sacred principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation.”
    – UN Commission on Global Governance report

    “Democracy is not a panacea. It cannot organize everything and it is unaware of its own limits. These facts must be faced squarely. Sacrilegious though this may sound, democracy is no longer well suited for the tasks ahead. The complexity and the technical nature of many of today’s problems do not always allow elected representatives to make competent decisions at the right time.”
    – Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution

    “In my view, after fifty years of service in the United National system, I perceive the utmost urgency and absolute necessity for proper Earth government. There is no shadow of a doubt that the present political and economic systems are no longer appropriate and will lead to the end of life evolution on this planet. We must therefore absolutely and urgently look for new ways.”
    – Dr. Robert Muller, UN Assistant Secretary General

    “Nations are in effect ceding portions of their sovereignty to the international community and beginning to create a new system of international environmental governance as a means of solving otherwise unmanageable crises.”
    – Lester Brown, WorldWatch Institute

    “A keen and anxious awareness is evolving to suggest that fundamental changes will have to take place in the world order and its power structures, in the distribution of wealth and income.”
    – Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point

    “Adopting a central organizing principle means embarking on an all-out effort to use every policy and program, every law and institution, to halt the destruction of the environment.”
    – Al Gore, Earth in the Balance

    “Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society, unlike anything the world has ever experienced – a major shift in the priorities of both governments and individuals and an unprecedented redeployment of human and financial resources. This shift will demand that a concern for the environmental consequences of every human action be integrated into individual and collective decision-making at every level.”
    – UN Agenda 21

    “The earth is literally our mother, not only because we depend on her for nurture and shelter but even more because the human sepcies has been shaped by her in the womb of evolution. Our salvation depends upon our ability to create a religion of nature.”
    – Rene Dubos, board member Planetary Citizens
    Dante Mudd Dante Mudd
    Dec. 12, 2009 at 7:48pm
  • That CO 2 can add to warming still solid. However how much and how unprecedented is the battle and the emails show unethical maneuverings to maintain that the warming is unprecedented. So the debate is how to interpret the proxies' and historic temperatures. See Battle of the Graphs .

    [Link was removed]

    All proxies have problems. But the emails show how their was an orchestrated effort to act as if the interpretation of the proxies was beyond reproach. Mann’s proxies made a hockey stick but required deleting some part of the proxy data and splicing suspect CRU temps, because starting in the 60’s their proxy temperatures declined. So three possible roads to take.

    1)    If proxies don’t match observations, discard the proxy and its interpretations like the hockey stick .
    2)    Conversely, we could discard the instrumental observations. Obviously insane or suggest instrumental records are wrong?

    3)    Or believe the proxies were reliable before the 60’s, but post 60’s the laws of nature reversed themselves, and those very same proxies were no longer reliable. That smacks of insanity. But strangely that’s what Mike Mann et al chose. Then they just hid the decline with his trick to make the proxies look reliable and then denied FOI requests. That is a serious problem.
    How do we put recent warming into perspective? Here is what the ice core data shows. [Link was removed]
    bigjim bigjim
    Dec. 12, 2009 at 9:17pm
  • It is the public's perception that science and politics are a natural combination in which politics dictates to science a direction. That is truly unfortunate.

    Science is repeatable observations using unbiased data and is the only part of man's knowledge that is so close to absolute truth. When people change data to reflect their beliefs or to influence others or to hide data then the study of science becomes sullied and then it looses its repeatability and therefore becomes pseudoscience.

    The great dangers of our time for the future are human overpopulation, resource depletion, deforestation, and fresh water shortage.CO2 concerns drive a clique of politically connected people to profit off of FEAR and these "traitors to the race of man" distract everyone from attending to our real problems that are of an immediate nature.

    Is it not strange that the proponents of CO2 driven climate change are all connected to "green" enterprises or take money for climate research from governments and those who would profit from alternative energy development???
    Jon Aronson Jon Aronson
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 12:45am
  • Nature says "the claim that the hacked emails offer evidence that mainstream climate scientists have systematically suppressed evidence contradicting global warming is simply paranoid." That's one of the main things that's in the Emails. Well, not quite that, there's more about suppressing papers that disagree with "The Team's" view. (The team includes several people at CRU, Mann, Santer, etc. The Wegman report - http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/WegmanReport.pdf - goes into the social network in detail in section 5.)

    I looked, but didn't find a disturbing Email I read before with complaints about a previously friendly journal publishing a paper they didn't like, I'll try to find it later, I don't want to describe it from memory. It's in at least one of the blogs too. I think it was JGR - the Journal of Geophysical Research.

    Another theme is the effort they expend to not release data, code, and other material that permits duplication of their research by others. Independent confirmation of results is a vital and welcomed activity in other scientific fields! Some of that data is being released now thanks in part to the Email dialog. By the way, interesting things are going on in that arena anyway, historical data is changing, sometimes quite significantly, and almost always so that older data is being restated cooler. Expect to hear a lot more about that in the near future.

    By the way, one thing that isn't disclosed in the AP paper is that lead author Seth Borenstein is in one of the Emails ( http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=987&filename=1248785856.txt ) where he asks for comments from three key members of the team about an article that had been discussed as bad science. I don't think there's enough to discredit the AP article, but the AP's review is not be as detached as one might think.

    Heh - in one last look for the JGR link, I stumbled across http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/12/aps-seth-borenstein-is-just-too-damn-cozy-with-the-people-he-covers-time-for-ap-to-do-somethig-about-it/ Not much gets past WUWT these days!
    Ric Werme Ric Werme
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 2:07am
  • I'm sorry, I just have to include this note from WUWT article:

    Now consider what other members of the media write about him. From the Tacoma News-Tribune

    Associated Press reporter Seth Borenstein has a terrible reputation as a runaway alarmist. Even global warming enthusiasts and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change are embarrassed by his over-the-top prognostications of doom and selective use of data to support his fading dream that mankind can actually control climate.
    Ric Werme Ric Werme
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 2:14am
  • It looks like those scientists got pretty fed up with skeptics. I guess that makes sense since the two sides disagree and members on both sides get their feelings hurt in the fray.

    What I continue to hear from news sources and the quotes I've seen from the leaked emails themselves doesn't suggest that the findings of this research group are in any way doctored or faked, just that they said unethical, unkind, and unprofessional things about skeptics.

    The most important question is a different one: Are the potential risks of inaction on global warming and climate change worth it? A lot of good science not mired in controversy still suggests that climate chaos is likely and is also very likely caused by our burning of fosil fuels. Nothing can be certain until it's all over with, but at this point we only need to decide if the potential of global catastrophe justifies taking action.

    I for one think it's a slam dunk. Controversy or not, it's in our best interest to do something to prevent global climate change. It could potential spell the end of the world as we know it.
    jim.brookhyser jim.brookhyser
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 4:04am
  • Climategate Forecast...
    “• What is the current scientific consensus on the conclusions reached by Drs. Mann, Bradley and Hughes? [Referring to the hockey stick propagated in UN IPCC 2001 by Michael Mann.]
    Ans: Based on the literature we have reviewed, there is no overarching consensus on MBH98/99. As analyzed in our social network, there is a tightly knit group of individuals who passionately believe in their thesis. However, our perception is that this group has a self-reinforcing feedback mechanism and, moreover, the work has been sufficiently politicized that they can hardly reassess their public positions without losing credibility.”
    AD HOC COMMITTEE REPORT ON THE ‘HOCKEY STICK’ GLOBAL CLIMATE RECONSTRUCTION, also known as The Wegman report was authored by Edward J. Wegman, George Mason University, David W. Scott, Rice University, and Yasmin H. Said, The Johns Hopkins University with the contributions of John T. Rigsby, III, Naval Surface Warfare Center, and Denise M. Reeves, MITRE Corporation.
    Francis Manns Francis Manns
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 6:25am
  • It is not in our best interest to march off Al Gore's cliff to the tune of his whistle. Climate change is normal. CO2 is essential to economic life as well as plant life.
    Francis Manns Francis Manns
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 6:27am
  • Dante, these sayings are terrific and you put them in the mouths of just the right people. But you should be careful about copyright. If some of these statements were actually made by the people you name, you ought to specify where and when they appeared so that we do not give you the credit they deserve. peterungar@yahoo.com
    peterungar peterungar
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 12:36pm
  • The ClimateGate emails clearly display the falsehood used in creation of "hockey stick" reconstructions of paleoclimate.

    That's important, because it changes the fundamental science. The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) and the Little Ice Age (LIA) - documented in hundreds of MS and Ph.D. theses and refereed papers - demonstrate that climate changes without human fossil fuel generation. There's nothing left to prove.

    The "hockey stick" creations of Mann and Briffa are lies. Scientists don't lie - and liars aren't scientists.

    Richard C. Savage
    Meteorologist
    Richard  Savage Richard Savage
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 12:44pm
  • I am absolutely shocked, and delighted, that SN had the courage to publish an article about Climategate. That is a good sign. However, the article draws far too heavily from the AP article, the author of which is far from objective.

    And there's a very important point which both SN and the AP have completely overlooked: the Climategate e-mails are only a small part of what was leaked. There was plenty of other stuff, including computer code, and the code does indeed contain many smoking guns. Here is an example:


    ;mknormal,yyy,timey,refperiod=[1881,1940]
    ;
    ; Apply a VERY ARTIFICAL correction for decline!!
    ; yrloc=[1400,findgen(19)*5. 1904] valadj=[0.,0.,0.,0.,0.,-0.1,-0.25,-0.3,0.,-0.1,0.3,0.8,1.2,1.7,2.5,2.6,2.6,$ 2.6,2.6,2.6]*0.75 ; fudge factor (...)
    ;
    ; APPLY ARTIFICIAL CORRECTION
    ; yearlyadj=interpol(valadj,yrloc,x) densall=densall yearlyadj

    There's your smoking gun! Go ahead and plot the fabricated data. The graph will look awfully familiar to anyone who has been following the AGW issue.(Or is there anyone left at the AP or SN with computer programming experience who can do this? Maybe this is too advanced an exercise for a journalist!)

    And this is just a small sample! Here's links to more:

    [Link was removed]

    [Link was removed]

    I really do applaud you for covering Climategate. But please dig a little deeper.










    Jerry Malone Jerry Malone
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 1:26pm
  • Scientists 300 years from now will view us as we view scientists from 300 years ago: Tiny islands of brilliance awash in a sea of idiocy. Too many scientists today start out with a conclusion and prove it by ignoring or adjusting facts. Too often, can a conclusion be predicted simply by identifying the source of the funding. Climate-gate is a natural outcome of our current science environment. Sports stadiums all have been named after banks and the like. Soon it will be Universities and research labs. When an topic like Global Warming is so politically charged. Scientists should provide facts and then step out. Getting involved in the politics is a conflict of interest.
    Paul Etzler Paul Etzler
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 3:22pm
  • We must be greatfull for any coverage of Climategate, even if it is a "nothing to see here, move along". A science reporter on first-name basis with the CRU scientists "investigates" alleged corruption and validates their research. Well, Science News is clearly a beacon of integrity.
    Please apply some training to your reporters on principles of science. Concepts such as group think, confirmation bias, reproducibility, traceability, verification, audit, independent peer review should be defined.
    I manufacture medical products under FDA oversight and the quality of Climate Data would not get a toothpick through the FDA, yet we will change the world by it. Absolutely insane.
    MichaelC58 MichaelC58
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 5:10pm
  • If readers want an actual scientific analysis of the significance of CRU emails, Daily Mail appears to be more competent at analyzing the actual science: [Link was removed]
    MichaelC58 MichaelC58
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 5:20pm
  • Climate-change issues excite people to think innovatively and consider new possibilities, and that's good. However, the caliber of "innovative" thinking needs to step up from the psuedo-environmentalism trumpeted by Greenies.

    In their guise as the Council Of Rome in the 1970s, Greenies attempted to frighten people into a Renewable Energy Economy aka Soft Path Economy based on the spectre of expensive fossil fuel. It proved quite possible however, to keep our dirty old hard-path economy without their advice.

    So they tried any number of handles on the public, cynically falling through a plethora of paradigms at a rate of two each decade before hitting the current greenhouse-gases-need-to-be-capped-and-traded strategem in the 1990s. Cap-and-Trade will supposedly, finally persuade us into accepting their Renewable Energy Utopia by making it increasingly impossible to maintain conventional energy industry.

    Ehh. What pikers.

    Too much of the thinking behind Renewable Energy comes from what used to be called the "ivory tower crowd" -- academics with PhD theses to peddle. The correct planning of a major enterprise is an exercise four orders of magnitude beyond a PhD thesis, and trying to plan policy for Renewable Energy based on PhD-level research is about as productive as trying to shop for all the components of a suburban home off what you can handprint on a two-inch Post-It note.

    Please realize that Renewable Energy is not so much something we need as a proposal to meet our needs through a major new heavy industry. This industry should be weighed as carefully as we know how, as carefully as we do with all other heavy industry, for deleterious environmental impacts.

    From the outset, our hardwon experience with previous heavy industry should serve to inform us that any Renewable Energy installation big enough to displace a municipal generation station is less the Teletubbies' back garden and more of an Industrial Park.

    Generating five hundred megawatts of baseload with mast-mounted turbine generators for example, requires hundreds of said turbines and generators perched atop hundreds of masts, spaced acres apart along a miles-long road network capable of delivering the biggest road-mobile cranes we know how to build to one or more tennis-court-sized, leveled and compacted "crane mats" situated alongside each three-hundred-foot steel mast. Trenched cables the girth of water mains follow the roads back towards multiacre electrical stations where ranks of humming, crackling, multi-million-dollar transformers present the work energy to a high-tension powerline that exits the site along an easement cutting straight to the nearest power grid junction.

    As there is no wind turbine in existence that would last more then fifty months without twice-yearly maintenance, there will never be a year when you don't have cranes moving along those roads and occupying those mats, when workers aren't picking apart and reassembling turbines to maintain them and to repair them. The roads, the masts, the trenched cables all have their own maintenance on top of this. And very little of this heavy equipment runs on wind power, so at present our hypothetical municipal-scale Renewable Energy turbine park burns through easily fifty-five gallons of fossil fuels a day, over twenty thousand gallons each year to remain operable. And if you couldn't fuel the cranes and trucks the park would lose half its generating capacity within two years due to unrecoverable bearing failures and blade damages.

    Just as our experience with industry has been hardwon, so has our experience with land-extensive infrastructures. North America has been paved to a remarkable degree; somewhere between one and ten percent of all land area is now a pavement or right-of-way of some sort, active or abandoned, and we continue to embroider on this extensive network at a rate of over three percent a year. We are aware that pavement seldom improves an environment, we have the science to back this sense up. Yet ivory-tower Renewable Energy proponents glibly suppose that their turbine projects can stand at such environmentally sensitive locations such as the headwaters of wilderness watersheds and the littoral wetlands of ocean shores.

    Please realize that we are not talking aesthetic losses here -- this is not just about whether or not a line of wind turbines improves or ruins someones' view. There are simply locales where any disturbance slashes the productivity of certain vital renewable resources for an entire region -- rainwater retention decreasing in watersheds is bad news you see, as is loss of larval habitat along seashores.

    And outright disasters await us too -- bulldoze through the cryptobiotic soils of the Sonoran desert to build a multigigawatt photovoltaic park there, and you unlock the tenuous glue that holds back cubic kilometers of siltfine dust -- fuel for a runaway cycle of dustbowl-like wind erosion that would devastate agriculture from Arizona to Missouri.

    So what is the actual solution? Keep Thinking! Jingoisms and slogans are sales tools, not thought processes.
    John Turner John Turner
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 6:57pm
  • There is really only one thing to say about the issues raised by "Climategate". When "scientists" refuse to make their data available, they have ceased to be scientists; they have become politicians or worse. None of these hacked e-mails proves that the earth is not warming, it just means that most of the "science" supporting that thesis cannot be trusted, that we are back at square one as far as knowing whether any such thing is going on and whether any of it is caused by human activity.
    Nell Kroeger Nell Kroeger
    Dec. 13, 2009 at 10:12pm
  • The AP doesn't quote the e-mails or the source code. The e-mails show collusion to control peer review, to remove editors who publish what they don't want published, to agree on a "trick" to "hide the decline". The source code clearly and boldly show a "fudge factor" function that shows that alters the conclusion. These are horrible and intentional deceptive acts.

    The AP's rebuttal? "No problem, trust us!" Rest in Peace science and reason.
    Stephen  Lajoie Stephen Lajoie
    Dec. 14, 2009 at 10:35am
  • Scientists seek only the truth or correct answer and have no agenda. This whold sorry mess demonstrates beyond a shadow of a doubt these so called climate change scientists have an agenda. If one is seeking the truth, the data is offered openly to anyone who is interested. In any event, how do the models account for the ice ages that have occurred every 100,000 during the last 700,000 years. When that is explained, maybe the skeptics will believe.
    John W. Heard John W. Heard
    Dec. 14, 2009 at 3:23pm
  • Contrary to this article, the science of climate change does not provide overwhelming evidence of the need to give billions of dollars to corrupt politicians. Yes, the climate is changing - as it always changes. It is specious to claim that the global climate changed so many times before without human involvement (the species did not exist for most of the climate change) but this time - it's us! Does mankind play a part - of course! However, the sun is a much more likely candidate for dramatic change. It was here for all those other changes and we don't fully understand the mechanism of those changes. The models ignore these facts and cannot explain the drop in temperature for the last two years but other theories do. Where is the falsification axiom? The climate change politicos must get something started now because as the earth cools over the next seven to ten years, they need to take credit for the cooling. If we do nothing, the earth will cool as it has during other periods of an inactive sun. Real scientific experimentation is being prepared at CERN to determine the mechanism for this well known phenomenon. (See the CLOUD experiment.) If the earth cools over the next seven to ten years, will the climate change politicos admit they were wrong. I doubt it; they will just switch to the argument that the climate is more variable because of human activities and, therefore, we need to give them and their political allies more money.
    Thomas Russotto Thomas Russotto
    Dec. 14, 2009 at 4:37pm
  • AP and SN and JAR. Just the epitome of lame.
    ART DAY ART DAY
    Dec. 15, 2009 at 6:24pm
  • Ya know it's not like the Earth isn't suffering some consquences of human's actions. It's not all BS. It's harder to convince someone to go to a treatment center [Link was removed] for help than it is to convince people that global warming is real.
    Dr. Drew Dr. Drew
    Dec. 16, 2009 at 1:39pm
  • Interesting none of the articles (including this one from SN) note that withholding the data requested via the Freedom of Info requests is illegal. The crooks should be charged and prosecuted to the limit of the law.
    John Mills John Mills
    Dec. 27, 2009 at 11:19am
  • Looks like scientific deception has become a science in itself. The pandemic that never happened is an example- a solution looking for a problem, driven by $$$ and government control- forced vaccinations of questionable effectiveness and unproven safety. Not a word about getting healthy, vit D etc. Just line up for your shot and shut up. AGW is on a much grander scale but very similar- CO2 a shaky theory at best, deception in "models", weak, conflicting, falsified data but close enough for gov't work. Never mind Richard Lindzen and other skeptics with excellent reasons not to fall in line, many that I thought of myself, a Mechanical Engineer with many years of problem solving and witness to failed and weak "models" on a small scale. How could the entire earth be properly modelled??? It can't be today. But this is nothing new- look at the fraud in health research- HIV, cholesterol scam, aspartame fraud, phoney research, reviewers that don't review, etc. Why should anyone trust the AGW crowd? The public is wising/waking up thanks to the internet. It looks to me there is a consensus here that AGW is a fraud.
    Robert Cannon Robert Cannon
    Dec. 29, 2009 at 4:13pm
  • I predict that nearly everyone will be convinced of global warming within the next 6 years. The Sun, now at solar minimum, will be at maximum then.

    Of course, 5 years later, at solar minimum again, skeptics will re-appear.
    AmericanGypsie AmericanGypsie
    Jan. 4, 2010 at 10:15pm
  • First do I think that we are in a warming period? Yes the earth has been warming since about 1650, at the end of the little ice age. For the previous ∼ 400 years or so the earth cooled(little ice age). Then for the previous ∼ 400 years or so the earth warmed (the medieval warm period) before that there was a ∼ 400 cold period (the dark ages) ∼ 400 years or so the earth warmed (classical times) on and on until we get back to the Pleistocene and the last ice age.
        
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    There is also a problem in evaluating any scientific position when the raw data is kept secret. As an example of thei problem with climate change.
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    This site seems to find the exact opposite from what has bed said by the Climate Research Unit of the University of East Anglia, where the raw numbers were before they were “lost, destroyed”, NOAA/GHCN, the Global Historical Climate Network and NASA/GISS, the Goddard Institute for Space Studies..
    John Leggett John Leggett
    Jan. 5, 2010 at 3:14pm

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    Jan. 9, 2010 at 2:35am
  • What I am really embarrassed by is the fact that supposedly reputable publications such as Science News continue to misrepresent the facts, and ignore the fact that Scientists at East Anglia's Climate Research Unit have admitted that there's been NO warming since the mid 90s,whether that info is referenced directly in the stolen emails or not.

    This kind of dishonest, shameful, destructive, and I would suspect criminal when the lie is used to advise governments on laws and regulations.
    Chris Walker Chris Walker
    Aug. 6, 2010 at 10:56pm
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