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Press briefing fails to announce preliminary findings of what could be the most distant galaxies seen yet
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Press briefing fails to announce preliminary findings of what could be the most distant galaxies seen yet

By Ron Cowen

Web edition: January 6, 2010

WASHINGTON — Ecstatic astronomers are waxing poetic about a new infrared portrait of the universe recorded by the refurbished Hubble Space Telescope. And they have good reason. The image, combined with a similarly deep portrait of the same patch of sky recorded by Hubble in visible light five years earlier, reveals galaxies that are extraordinarily distant.

Because light from remote galaxies must travel for billions of years to reach Earth, the light emitted by the bodies reveals how they appeared more than 13 billion years ago, or less than a billion years after the Big Bang.

During a January 5 press briefing at the winter meeting of the American Astronomical Society, one reporter asked exactly how far back in time the Hubble images were able to see. Astronomers at the briefing said the images enabled them to see galaxies about 600 million years after the Big Bang, which is also what these researchers reported online last October (SN: 10/10/09, p. 8).

However, according to two independent online reports by the same researchers who spoke at the press briefing, a further analysis of the same images has revealed galaxies that may date back even earlier, to within 450 million years of the birth of the universe. One of the teams, led by Rychard Bouwens and Garth Illingworth of the University of California, Santa Cruz, has even submitted its paper to Nature.

Despite having posted these preliminary findings online already (Science News reported the work January 3 (SN Online: 1/3/10), both Illingworth and the leader of other team, Rogier  Windhorst  of Arizona State University in Tempe, scrupulously avoided mentioning anything during the briefing about these more remote galaxies. The candidate early galaxies could reside 150 million years closer in time to the Big Bang than the galaxies the researchers reported during the Jan. 5 briefing.

That’s not because 150 million years earlier in time isn’t significant. Like an archaeological dig looking for signs of the earliest civilization, peering farther back in time to galaxies that may hail from a slightly earlier era gets that much closer to cosmic dawn, the time when the first galaxies and stars switched on.

What’s more, finding galaxies hailing from 450 million years after the Big Bang is the very best Hubble or any other telescope now in existence can do. As a lyric from Rodgers & Hammerstein's Oklahoma proclaims, "They’ve gone about as far as they can go."

After years of astronomers announcing findings of the most distant galaxies known — statements frequently revised several months later — scientists truly can't find anything more remote until the launch of Hubble's successor, the infrared James Webb Space Telescope, in 2014.

So why not mention the new findings? It's because the researchers from each team, while believing they have likely found galaxies that distant and far back in time, don’t agree on which galaxies fit the bill. It’s not easy finding such faint, distant bodies and the 20 or so candidates found by Windhorst's team don't even overlap with any of the three candidates found by Illingworth, Bouwens and their colleagues. And in its online paper, the Illingworth-Bouwens team criticize Windhorst and his colleagues

“We didn’t want to pick a fight in front of the press,” said Windhorst, who told Science News that additional analysis suggests that of his team’s 20 candidate early galaxies, perhaps 10 may turn out be truly distant.

"We don’t quite agree on the details," Windhorst added, saying also that it's too early to announce the work to the public. However, the teams' online posting of their work and one team's intent to publish those studies in a professional journal appear to tell a different story.

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  • Aren't we humans ego centric! For our entire history our universe has been defined by our then current scientific understanding and yet our universe continues to grow. Just once I would like to see the word "known" in front of universe.
    For me I believe the univers is MUCH MUCH bigger than the 13+ bil year view we have. Rather to me it is like a huge complex and all of our instruments can only see as far as the a certain radius from where we happen to exist. I think that it is entirely likely that our universe is older and larger than that which our current day science reveals.
    Scruffy Scruffy
    Jan. 10, 2010 at 8:59am
  • I Totally agree with Scruffy. The earliest thoughts this 67 yo lay person had concerning the extent of our Universe, were that it had to be infinite. Acknowledging that historically, humans have made inaccurate decisions based on a lack of knowledge, and that my own thoughts may well be the result of my lack of scientific education, I believe our top cosmologists miss the boat in thinking they are viewing the end/beginning of our Universe. I will not be surprized to see the Webb Telescope reveal not only the first galaxies of our local "known" Universe, but stands a very good chance of seeing beyond to perhaps an edge, or even more, of a neighboring Universe. Even the various multi universe theories seem to require some seperation in the "hard" sense that make them inaccessable to us, as in the description we read about of bubble universes. Why can they not just be other universes, seperated from us by distance, not some film or barrier we are unable to perceive? If you come to the end of something, is it so preposterous to imagine there is something beyond, making the "end" a mute term? I think my imaginings are as potentially valid as any of the many theories advanced by our current experts on the subject.
    Having said the above, I certainly appreciate the knowledge we have gained from those same experts. My heros are the many historical and current astronomers/cosmologists. In particular I admire the legacy of "out of the box" thinkers like Carl Sagan and Richard Feynmann.
    Butch Butch
    Jan. 10, 2010 at 10:10am
  • Unless we on Earth are in a very special position in the so-called Uni-verse, namely at its center - we should have begun to see emptiness or less uniformity in some direction - IF the Uni-verse is only 13.7 byo and is, indeed, united. However, those with vested interest in Big Bang, Inflationary theories, General Relativity, etc., are not likely to admit they are beating a long-dead horse, until the "Problems" with physics mentioned by Lee Smolin are replaced by a more workable model - based on empiric observation, not mathematical models. Stay tuned ! Raymond A. Pohl
    Raymond  Pohl Raymond Pohl
    Jan. 10, 2010 at 11:14pm
  • Hm, I was about to dismiss this "bigger and older" universe theory, but Raymond Pohl makes a good point. Have they noticed any emptiness or less uniformity in some direction? If not, what are the odds that Earth could happen to be near the center of the universe? Unless, due to some dimensional warp due to there being limits to time itself, every point in the universe would seem to be a center, since the rest wraps around it. Sorry, I'm not knowledgeable on this subject, I'm just speculating!
    Jared Bond Jared Bond
    Jan. 11, 2010 at 7:11am
  • It's rather disheartening to see so many folks "wanting" the universe to be something that observation cannot deliver.

    If we see evidence for a "horizon", why should that fact hobble our emotions any more than that we had been aware of another that we gradually learned could be circumvented? (For over the last few millennia of sea-faring).

    Then we learned that the Earth wasn't an infinitely - or a finite - flat plane, but rather, a round ball. After all, initial appearances can lead one astray. Sailors long before Homer's day would have been glad to hear that one would not fall over some permanently supplied cateract.

    But it didn't take us terribly much longer to understand that nature supplies a plethora of round balls Out There, each an entire world. And we've only recently begun to discover those that accompany other suns besides our own...with prospects for a wealth of new discoveries at this moment unprecedented in any previous sphere of human gamble.

    Now we have folks who lament over a universe they find confining and restrictive, as if it was anywhere near as claustrophobically constricted as the ideas that religious traditions have promulgated over millennia - some continuing to do so - with not a single one of those traditions ever so much as guessing anywhere near the right answer...not even so much as informing their adherents that the stars are, in fact, other suns.

    Such a marvel of ordinary import would surely have been transmitted by "prophets" to their constituents over the many centuries they have held their attentions.

    They didn't.

    On the contrary, science informed us.

    There's nothing wrong with the universe, or with nature, nor with the halting interpretations of scientific observation. If there is any "fault" to be assigned, it is to those who stubbornly hold to quaint human traditions or to the preconceptions well-basted by the kind of human conceit tradition all too often promotes, neither of which admits much of any correction from any observation of the only subject at hand.

    The evidence so far definitely suggests that the observable universe is finite in space as well as time, and that we simply cannot expect to see beyond a certain limit from our position.

    It is an extraordinary testament to the power of science that we HAVE approached the limits of direct observation at all. And we should rather feel exhilerated that we've been able to reach as far as we have, step-by-step, by the patient application of observation.

    We've finally found out HOW to find out WHO and WHAT we actually are by a device that any master tracker from 2 million years ago would instantly have recognized as certifiably verifiable and therefore trustworthy: when it comes to understanding as well as survival, evidence is everything.

    Observed horizons surely don't mean that our universe is "all there is", or that such horizons bar a vast if not infinite panoply of existence composed of a froth of bubble universes defined by their horizons much like our own. Look on the brighter side: perhaps those horizons actually ALLOW the sort of multiplicity and infinitude you seek.
    Adolf Schaller Adolf Schaller
    Jan. 11, 2010 at 7:37pm

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