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Leasing car batteries to the power company
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Parked ... and making moneyEven in the San Diego convention center, this hybrid car was able to help out the grid, Janet Raloff reports in her latest blog. T. Siegfried

SAN DIEGO — Most people, on average, drive their cars only an hour or two a day. The rest of the time, those pricey vehicles sit parked on the street or in some garage. But if those cars had a big bank of batteries – typical of today’s gasoline hybrids or soon-to-hit-the-road plug-in hybrids – they could be earning their owners money while sitting parked. Maybe $5 to $10 a day, just by serving as a back-up energy-storage system for the electric-utility grid.

Or at least that’s the idea behind the V2G – vehicle-to-grid – movement. A panel of experts described the promise (and hinted at some of the pitfalls) of this power-sharing arrangement, where people agree to effectively lease their cars’ batteries, when they’re not in use, to the power company. It was part of a preview for reporters of a symposium to take place early tomorrow, here at the American Association for the Advancement of Science annual meeting.

To reinforce that V2G is not just a theoretical construct, Tom Gage, president of AC Propulsion in San Dimas, Calif., drove his personally customized V2G plug-in-electric car from Los Angeles yesterday and into the San Diego Convention Center. It was a big show-and-tell element, parked just a few feet away from the V2G panelists in a second floor meeting room. Hooked up to a meter, it communicated with PJM Interconnection of Valley Forge, Pa., throughout the press conference. PJM, which is responsible for coordinating the movement of wholesale electricity throughout the grid in all or parts of 13 states and the District of Columbia, has been participating in three V2G projects. They included the Mid-Atlantic Grid Interactive Car Consortium, better known as MAGICC.

From time to time, as power demand rose a little, PJM would ask Gage’s car to share some of the power stored in its batteries. Later, when the grid had a little too much generation feeding into it, the company would instruct the grid to dump a trickle of that excess back into the car’s batteries. Real-time details of this computer-controlled power sharing between the grid and Gage’s car (along with two others) were displayed on a screen at the front of the room.

At least initially, the dozens of reporters listening to today’s five speakers had trouble understanding why owners would want to put their cars’ batteries on the line to help out the power company. The problem was that Ken Huber of PJM and his fellow panelists kept emphasizing the public good of sharing our batteries with the grid – without explaining the benefits and putative protections for the owner and vehicle.

Indeed, the speakers initially conveyed the impression that the grid could and would draw down a car’s battery, for a fee, and then let the owner replenish the charge on his or her dime.

Once Huber understood the confusion, he pointedly emphasize that “We are not discharging or charging the vehicles.” Rather, he said, “the regulation signal that we’re sending out varies around zero” – taking and then replacing, over and over again, small quantities of electricity. “So over the course of a day,” Huber said, the batteries “will have charged and discharged just the same amount.” Meaning there should be no net loss of charge on the vehicle. While parked, the vehicle probably will be charging. And owing to the power sharing arrangement, he acknowledged, “we’re varying that charge rate a little bit. But just a little bit – a small percentage.”

For the privilege of adding and withdrawing tiny increments of charge throughout the day, a car’s owner would receive a fee. Not a huge one, Huber says. “But we’ve paid, in the past year, somewhere around $40 a megawatt-hour.” (This year, with fuel costs somewhat lower, he said utilities will probably be paying closer to $28 per megawatt-hour.) “So if you have a megawatt of [hybrid-car] batteries charging, and we do in our grid, they’d make somewhere between $800 and $1,000 a day,” Huber says.

PJM and other utility power brokers are not interested in writing contracts with the occasional car owner here or there. They will want a minimum of a half-megawatt or more in back-up batteries. So it’s likely that companies will develop to sign up willing parties to a compact, where members sign on to collectively lease their batteries.

Willett Kempton of the University of Delaware has been stumping for V2G since 1997. Five years ago, he and Jasna Tomic of Calstart, a Pasadena, Calif.-based nonprofit dedicated to cleaner transportation options, published a pair of papers. They explained the math behind V2G, projected the economics of this power-sharing arrangement, and offered 16 key equations that Kempton says would “allow you to tell what the car can do for the grid and what [its monetary] value is.” He also calculated how much the grid activity might diminish a car’s battery life.

“And what we found,” Kempton says, “is that it [V2G’s value] is a good bit higher” than the costs to the car. After publishing these calculations, he expected that “the world would beat a path to our door.” It didn’t happen.

So he and others pushed for pilot scale testing. For instance, last November, MAGICC integrated the first of three cars into the East Coast grid network. They’re now making money every time they’re plugged in, he says.

But the real motivation for V2G is what it can do for utilities, today’s speakers explained. Batteries can respond to changes in electrical demand much faster than any other modulator. And when aggregated over thousands of vehicles or more, they can save utilities – and, presumably, electricity users – money by eliminating a utility’s need to install expensive banks of permanent batteries or power plants for occasional use when demand peaks.

With V2G, Kempton explains, a car “is part of the grid. It’s controlled by the grid operator, yet doesn’t compromise driving capabilities.”

Okay, but what does it cost to get a car ready to sync with the grid? Perhaps $500 in computerized controllers added to a battery-packed hybrid vehicle. Oh, and there’s something else: The grid needs to know when the car will be available for power sharing. So owners may need to report their normal schedule. Like when they commute, shop and car pool the kids to soccer practice.


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  • This idea demands a degree of complication and organizational nightmare that could only come from someone with Utopian thoughts. Where are these people getting their funding to propose such a huge interconnection between ordinary citizens and the electrical grid?

    Imagine, were this scenario to take place, teenagers with nothing to do unplugging cars with "attractive" connections hanging from poles, or better yet, from underground (that won't be expensive to construct).

    Horse droppings!
    Jon Aronson Jon Aronson
    Feb. 19, 2010 at 6:31am
  • Whether or not V2G takes off for the power grid, there are benefits for individuals in having a car battery connection available. I have added a connector to my Prius to be able to tap the traction battery. When there is a utility power outage, I use it (220V 25kW peak capacity) to power the house. The car keeps the battery charged as long as there's gas in the tank. (See PriUPS.com )

    The cost for adding the connector to the battery is only a few dollars, so getting the "fleet" ready for V2G doesn't require "Utopian thoughts" even if it's never used.

    Richard Factor Richard Factor
    Feb. 19, 2010 at 7:24am
  • Actually, speaking as a software & energy policy guy, this scheme does not seem far fetched to me at all. The "smart meters" that are deployed today are an example of a not-too-dissimilar technology.

    When I was in Delaware, I got to know Willett Kempton a bit, and he strikes me as a great contributor of practical methods to reduce our social carbon footprint. I have read some of his work as well, and am impressed with their rigor.

    The only downside I see to this is the possible encouragement of our automobile paradigm. This way of life is not sustainable, even aside from the awful direct carbon footprint.
    John Atkeison John Atkeison
    Feb. 19, 2010 at 12:18pm
  • Well... it was indeed an 'Utopian thought' mankind walking in the moon.
    I believe this idea is just excelent, and will get even better when applied to all rechargeable batteries providing to huge 'energy storage plants' (yet to be built) the raw and clean cheep un-waisted energy to be used. Maybe when they find a way of transmiting from the batteries themselves (not only car's but electronics' as well) straight to the collector throught waves ... from the source to the storage...
    Hurray to technology! Hurray to creators.
    Lovelly information. (not only cost/benefits in money ... but in energy savings all around our planet).
    Thanks.
    ketinunkantim ketinunkantim
    Feb. 19, 2010 at 1:00pm
  • Ummm, given the universality of inevitable losses and the present overload on our electric grid, I sense a perpetual motion machine hidden in here somewhere.
    ART DAY ART DAY
    Feb. 21, 2010 at 12:20am
  • A very good idea; distributed power storage.
    Sounds very similar to distributed computing, where people let researchers use the unused computing power of millions of personal computers to exceed the power of the worlds best supercomputers by several times, all at a very low cost.
    kevin hawley kevin hawley
    Feb. 21, 2010 at 10:02am
  • Cute idea if a sound method can be developed to deploy it. Sounds like something AAA could arrange or someone with fleets of cars such as the government or rental car companies.
    John Mills John Mills
    Feb. 21, 2010 at 10:09am
  • It sounds like a great idea, except the car will be discharged when it is needed. For hybrids, It would cost gas to recharge them. Is the power company going to reimburse the owner?
    Paul Etzler Paul Etzler
    Feb. 21, 2010 at 5:15pm
  • For a cold dose of reality on PEVs, I highly recommend John Peterson of AltEnergyStocks.com.
    The Ford Escape has a 6 kWh batter pack (roughly typical of other PEVs). At 10cents/kWh, that's a whopping 60 cent's worth of power it's holding - if you drain it to the bottom.
    So for the privilege of having some part of that Snicker-bar's worth of power sloshing back and forth potentially a few times a day, you add $500 to the price of the vehicle. Where can I sign up for that bargain? And millions more, just like me?
    Tom Brennan Tom Brennan
    Feb. 21, 2010 at 8:18pm
  • Forgot to mention the basic fact of Demand Response Events: they're predictably going to happen on summer afternoons from 2 to 7PM. The utility co. would love to take from you then; but don't you dare try to add to their burden in this time slot to recharge ($$). (You just wanted to spend more time at work after 5 anyway, right?)
    Tom Brennan Tom Brennan
    Feb. 21, 2010 at 8:27pm
  • John A.;
    since the carbon footprint problem is entirely illusory, the only variable that needs to be taken into account is the benefit of "smoothing" supply and demand.
    Brian Hall Brian Hall
    Feb. 24, 2010 at 3:16am
  • This is such a great idea, this will eventually help ordinary people use their cars every day and in every hour that they need it.
    juvy arandia juvy arandia
    Dec. 5, 2010 at 4:10am
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