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A skeptic of quantum theory explains his misgivings
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By Albert Einstein

Web edition: November 5, 2010
Print edition: November 20, 2010; Vol.178 #11 (p. 36)

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Some physicists, among them myself, cannot ... accept the view that events in nature are analogous to a game of chance.
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In a 1905 paper, Albert Einstein proposed that light could travel in the form of particles later called photons. It was one of the pioneering papers in the research that led to quantum mechanics, the mathema­tical framework for describing matter and energy on a fundamental level. But in his later years, Einstein expressed grave dissatisfaction with quantum mechanics. He was especially unhappy with its description of reality in terms of probabilities, a view developed by the German physicist Max Born. Einstein preferred the deterministic cause-and-effect rigor of classical physics, expressing his displeasure by saying “God does not play dice.” But Einstein’s views on quantum mechanics are often oversimplified. For observable phenomena, he accepted the statistical view of quantum mechanics; his main concern was its incompleteness (in his view) in describing reality. To investigate those views, Science News Editor in Chief Tom Siegfried conducted an “interview” with Einstein via of a number of the physicist’s writings and statements.

In a nutshell, what’s wrong with quantum mechanics?

Some physicists, among them myself, cannot believe that we must abandon, actually and forever, the idea of direct representation of physical reality in space and time; or that we must accept the view that events in nature are analogous to a game of chance.

Why were you so upset about quantum theory when much of it was based on your own work?

Yes, I may have started it but I always regarded these ideas as temporary. I never thought that others would take them so much more seriously than I did.

Do you believe the world is totally deterministic, so each effect follows from its causes with complete predictability?

From the point of view of immediate experience there is no such thing as exact determinism.... The question is whether or not the theoretical description of nature must be deterministic. Beyond that, the question is whether or not there exists generally a conceptual image of reality (for the isolated case), an image which is in principle completely exempt from statistics.

Quantum mechanics has been extremely successful. How can you oppose a theory that always gets the right answers?

I consider the methods of quantum mechanics fundamentally unsatisfactory. I want to say straight away, however, that I will not deny that this theory represents an important, in a certain sense even final, advance in physical knowledge....  Probably never before has a theory been evolved which has given a key to the interpretation and calculation of such a heterogeneous group of phenomena of experience.... In spite of this, however, I believe that the theory is apt to beguile us into error in our search for a uniform basis for physics, because, in my belief, it is an incomplete representation of real things, although it is the only one which can be built out of the fundamental concepts of force and material points (quantum corrections to classical mechanics). The incompleteness of the representation leads necessarily to the statistical nature (incompleteness) of the laws.

So then are you saying that a statistical interpretation is necessary for observable “material points”?

Experiments lead to the conclusion that energy values lying between the quantum values do not exist…. It seems to be clear, therefore, that Born’s statistical interpretation of quantum theory is the only possible one.

David Bohm proposed a deterministic interpretation of quantum mechanics in 1952 — what about that?

That way seems too cheap to me.

You say that quantum statistics apply only to ensembles of systems rather than individual particles. Is it possible that nature allows no deeper insight into single systems than quantum mechanics provides?

To believe this is logically possible without contradiction; but, it is so very contrary to my scientific instinct that I cannot for­go the search for a more complete conception.

So do you believe quantum mechanics is not the final word as a basis for physical theory?

There is no doubt that quantum mechanics has seized hold of a good deal of truth, and that it will be a touchstone for any future theoretical basis.... If one wants to consider the quantum theory as final (in principle), then one must believe that a more complete description would be useless because there would be no laws for it. If that were so then physics could only claim the interest of shopkeepers and engineers; the whole thing would be a wretched bungle.

For sources of Einstein’s comments, visit www.sciencenews.org/einstein
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  • This is a wonderful "interview"! As you hoped, it does illustrate the depth of Einstein's thinking about quantum mechanics, without, however, making it any clearer what he might have had in mind for a more complete theory. It's as though Einstein wanted to personally visit a photon and experience its sensations, but was prevented by quantum mechanics from doing so. That method, I have read, helped Einstein advance his own understanding. It seems he was loath to give it up, and felt a lack of physical reality in its absence. Maybe Einstein even envisioned something like the many-worlds interpretation, and found himself lost in it, without any of his usual tools of investigation.
    Ralph Dratman Ralph Dratman
    Nov. 6, 2010 at 10:08am
  • Nice article! Loved it.

    Too bad that Science News does not have the intellectual courage to do a similar interview with "global warming" (sorry, that's "climate change", ops, I meant "global climate disruption") skeptics.
    Jerry Malone Jerry Malone
    Nov. 7, 2010 at 11:13am
  • Gravity may spread into the extra dimensions while the other known forces and particles are confined to the three familiar spatial dimensions. So gravity could be just as strong as the other forces but only felt strongly at short distances. In particle physics and physical cosmology, the Planck scale is an energy scale around 1.22 × 10e19
    GeV (which corresponds by the mass–energy equivalence to the Planck mass 2.17645 × 10e−8 kg) at which
    quantum effects of gravity become strong. At this scale, the description of sub-atomic particle interactions
    in terms of quantum field theory breaks down (due to the non-renormalizability of gravity). At the Planck
    scale, the strength of gravity is expected to become comparable to the other forces, and it is theorized that
    all the fundamental forces are unified at that scale, but the exact mechanism of this unification remains unknown. Traditionally in theoretical physics the Planck scale is the highest energy scale and all dimensional parameters are measured in terms of the Planck scale. In models of large extra dimensions the fundamental scale is much lower than the Planck. This occurs because the power law of gravity changes. Until we understand the quantum nature of gravity Einstein's "scientific instinct" will continue to remain mere speculation nothing more.
    Michael Boyd Michael Boyd
    Nov. 7, 2010 at 1:53pm
  • If "gravity propagates in several additional spatial dimensions that are large compared to the Planck scale" wouldn't that create a frame drag between the normal spatial dimensions and gravity's spatial dimensions that could be then be observed experimentally as shown on the front cover of the October 9, 2010 ScienceNews?

    [See"Visualizing the void; How to capture a black hole]
    Michael Boyd Michael Boyd
    Nov. 7, 2010 at 2:00pm
  • Isn't there more Einstein has said about Bohmian theory? What does he mean by too cheap? As expressed here his opinion is too cheap.
    Arjen Dijksman Arjen Dijksman
    Nov. 8, 2010 at 10:41pm
  • M.Malone is wright . The same interview must be conducted among the AGU US researchers fighting to reclaim climate science message.
    etienne levy etienne levy
    Nov. 9, 2010 at 4:38am
  • For a relevant set of lecture slides on this topic (lecture given at the Physics Faculty of AMU, Poznan) please see JPhysics [dot] org [forward-slash] talks
    Alexander Mayer Alexander Mayer
    Nov. 15, 2010 at 5:57pm
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  • Life and the universe are not conglomerations of mechanisms. Their mechanisms are routes of evolution. They do not set/determine the classical physics end-target/states. They are routes of evolution between classical physics states. Quantum mechanics are mechanisms, probable, possible and actual mechanisms of getting from one to other classical physics states between the initial cosmic singularity to the maximum expanded universe and back to singularity states.


    28Dec09 Updated Implications Of E=Total[m(1 + D)]

    Hidden Dimensions?
    It Is Space-Distance, Not Space-Time
    A suggested something that's worth a "work on".
    The science establishment would undoubtedly dismsiss it...

    Black holes of ALL sizes are constrained-energy mass formats. Like biosphere(s) they require energy to survive temporarily, to avoid as long as possible their energy used to fuel the ongoing cosmic expansion. So are ALL mass formats in the universe.

    28Dec09 Updated "Implications Of E=Total[m(1 + D)] "
    the-scientist


    A. Its essential statement

    "Extrapolation of the expansion of the universe backwards in time to the early hot dense "Big Bang" phase, using general relativity, yields an infinite density and temperature at a finite time in the past. At age 10^-35 seconds the Universe begins with a cataclysm that generates space and time, as well as all the matter and energy the Universe will ever hold."

    E = Energy content of the universe
    m = mass content of the universe
    D = distance, Total = in all spatial directions, from the point of Big-Bang, of singularity's energy-mass superposition

    At D=0, E was = m and both E and m were, together, all the energy and matter the Universe will ever hold. Since the onset of the cataclysm, E remains constant and m diminishes as D increases.
    The increase of D is the initial inflation, followed by the ongoing expansion, of what became the galactic clusters.

    At 10^-35 seconds, D was already a fraction of a second above zero. This is when gravity starts. This is what started gravity. At this instance starts the energetic space texture, starts the straining of the space texture, and starts the space-texture-memory, gravity, that most probably will eventually overcome expansion and initiate re-impansion back to singularity.


    B. Some of its further essential implications beyond Einstein-Hubble and re classical-quantum physics

    And again and again : "On The Origin Of Origins"
    www.the-cientist
    1. It promotes commonsensical scientific critical thinking beyond Einstein-Hubble.

    The universe is the archetype of quantum within classical physics, which is the fractal oneness of the universe.

    Astronomically there are two physics. A classical Newtonian physics behaviour of and between galactic clusters, and a quantum physics behaviour WITHIN the galactic clusters.

    The onset of big-bang's inflation, the cataclysmic resolution of the Original Superposition, started gravity, with formation - BY DISPERSION - of galactic clusters that behave as classical Newtonian bodies and continuously reconvert their original pre-inflation masses back to energy, thus fueling the galactic clusters expansion, and with endless quantum-within-classical intertwined evolutions WITHIN the clusters in attempt to delay-resist this reconversion.

    2. There is no call, no need, for any dark energy. The energy of the universe is conserved. The mass of the universe is conserved in the form of energy, the energy fueling the clusters expansion. At the next universal singularity, at the next D = 0, there will again be E = m for a small fraction of a second...just wait and see...

    Following Newton (1) gravity is decreased when mass is decreased and (2) acceleration of a body is given by dividing the force acting upon it by its mass. By plain common sense the combination of those two 'laws' may explain the accelerating cosmic expansion of galaxy clusters and the laws that drive it, based on the E/ m/ D relationship suggested above..

    3. There is no call, no need, for a Higgs Particle.

    The resolution of energy-mass superposition is reverted when D = 0. Shockingly sad, but must be soberingly faced rationally.


    C. Its implications re the origin and nature of life beyond Darwin, re selection for survival

    For Nature, Earth's biosphere is one of the many ways of temporarily constraining an amount of energy within a galaxy within a galactic cluster, for thus avoiding, as long as possible, spending this particularly constrained amount as part of the fuel that maintains the clusters expansion.

    Genes are THE Earth's organisms and ALL other organisms are their temporary take-offs.

    For Nature genes are genes are genes. None are more or less important than the others. Genes and their take-offs, all Earth organisms, are temporary energy packages and the more of them there are the more enhanced is the biosphere, Earth's life, Earth's temporary storage of constrained energy. This is the origin, the archetype, of selected modes of survival.

    The early genes came into being by solar energy and lived a very long period solely on direct solar energy. Metabolic energy, the indirect exploitation of solar energy, evolved at a much later phase in the evolution of Earth's biosphere.


    D. Towards nothingness, or impansion?

    At infinitely large D, at m = nearly 0, E is still constant due to high D. When mass diminishes to near zero, energy does not diminish. This is rational as since the Big-Bang, since the resolution of E/m superposition, E continues - Newtonwise - to impart energy to m, and - quantumwise - to temporarily survive m. When there is no m, at very high D, there is only E left...

    So where is the universe heading? Is it heading towards nothingness, or towards impansion? What might happen when very high D is reached? Will this be the oblivion into nothingness, or will this be the start of impansion back towards a cosmic E/m superposition?

    Commonsense rational would expect an impansion. Not that it matters to us. It has no bearing on our present or future life. Rationally it is more convenient to accept the rationality of a cyclic cosmos than of a one-time cosmos. It is easier to accept that at some very large D value
    there will come into play the cosmic space texture, the gravity monotheism, the space texture laid and memory-strained since inflation.

    It is easier to accept that gravity will eventually overcome the fuel-starved expansion and initiate re-impansion back to singularity. This is easier to accept, even if its origin and nature are still beyond our comprehension.

    Dov Henis
    (Comments from 22nd century)
    Cosmic Evolution Simplified
    the-scientist
    Dov Henis Dov Henis
    Dec. 14, 2010 at 11:44am
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